Here ya go, folks. From their own mouths. There are no "radical" Muslims, just Muslims. And they all think that Sharia and jihad and beheadings and stonings, etc. are not extreme. They are from Allah, and it's all good. So, what do normal Patriots think?
There are Muslims in this country that are completely different from these radical assholes. I work for a guy from Bosnia. He's as white as I am. I've seen him nibble on the bacon we use and he thinks these radicals need to STFU.
He doesn't make a issue of his religion and neither do the other Bosnian/Muslims at the store. He's a great guy to work for and he's help me out financially a couple of times. He has his moments, he's got a temper like mine. But if the phone rings, he knows we will come in at a moments notice. SW works there too. He's tried several times to get her to be a manager. She keeps telling him no.
One of the other drivers, also a Bosnian, makes a kick ass pizza with mushrooms and brishudo(sp), that's very thin sliced pork loin.In case you didn't know.
So it is good to know that there are some Muslims out there that aren't screaming kill the infidels. Just FYI.
Did anybody else notice that even the guy talking said "sunni muslims"? What about the shi'itty muslims? Even they make a distinction. I don't but they do.
That's quite alright. This only confirms the correctness of my decision, and of course of action, that will soon be driving the communists and slaves of sharia law batshit in my location. Soon I will have three copies of the koran in my posession and will publicly burn them, here in my AO deep behind the lines of the communist dictatorship of new york. Without question, there will be more to follow, as the city "government" and their quislings are informed of this.
Cavmedic, a regular event for me and my friends is a koran execution. We do it every 9-11 in remembrance of those slaughtered by moderate islam. Robert, its called tai qua. they can lie to you with a straight face and even eat pork if it helps the cause of islam.
Fuck the islamists. And remember just who exactly is letting them come here by the Thousands...Thats right, our very own Feral Government. Did any of you read about the explosion in "Little Somalia" in Minneapolis I think? It happened Jan 1 and flattened an apartment. DHS showed up, and declared a "gas leak" and had the wreckage bulldozed in 72 hours... Can't investigate that now can you? Why was that not national news? Just asking...
Without question, Jesse,(thanks for the reminder), I know who is letting them come here and what the mindset of those muslims is. That is the main basis for my near furture course of action, along with rubbing the city, state and cuomo's face in it beforehand.
I've been lurking around here for quite some time now. I find it entertaining, amusing, and sometimes thoughtful. What I don't understand is this hate for Muslims. Bacon? Hell, Jews don't eat bacon. So what? It's their religion. Stoning adulterers? How many spouses in this country are killed each year by their better half when they are caught running around? Read Numbers 31 in the Bible and the laws of Abraham on which many Islamic laws are based.
It seems mighty un-American to me to judge an entire people because of their religion.
Orlin, the difference is a Jew doesn't care if you eat bacon, hell, he/she'd pay for the meal. Live and let live, right?
Muslims on the other hand will, at the very least, lecture and sneer at you, or if you're in the minority (see England) will attack you for being an infidel and kill you in a variety of interestingly archaic ways. Live as we live or die. Infidel.
I'd be happy to let them live their lives if they'd do the same. But that isn't the plan (again, see England and other European countries).
Listen to what the islamists tell you. They WANT a world wide Caliphate. Our position in that is Dhimmi... Read. Listen and think...The Islamists are not the only enemy of the Republic, but they are AN enemy. Jefferson faught a war against "The Barbary Pirates" Guess who they were? Google islamic rapes in Europe. Educate yourselves.
Ma'am, According to official records there were about 550 murders in England last year. Only one was done by two recent Islamic converts. The head of the Islamic communities in England called it barbaric and condemned them. http://www.citizensreportuk.org/news/2012/01/12/british-murders-2012-victims-of-murder-homicides-and-fatal-violence-mapped/
This is the only murder I can find attributed to Islamists http://bigstory.ap.org/article/jury-weighing-verdict-uk-soldier-murder-trial
Is it possible you are being indoctrinated with agitprop?
I certainly never hear of any murders of Christians, Jews, Hindusm etc. being killed by Islamists in this country.
I would also point out that there are laws against murder and as such we should be hearing of these prosecutions if it is happening.
If you have any information of such, I would welcome the info.
How about asking the Coptic christians in Egypt?, or the ever diminishing Christian community in Iraq or Syria? How about the Armenian genocide by Turkey? How about the Ft Hood shooter?How about the guy at the army recruitment office? If you actually LOOK it is quite possible to find the evidence...
Jesse, I would point out that there were no conflicts between Muslims and Christians in Egypt, Iraq or Syria until the US poked its nose into these countries, destroyed them and disturbed the peace.
The Major at Fort Hood has been sentenced to death by a military court in that legal proceeding.
I will not be talking to any agents of the USG.
I would also point out this current event: Muslims in Central African Republic (CAR) are being "butchered like sheep'' by Christian militias, and the deployment of French troops has not improved their safety, according to witness accounts from refugees arriving on evacuation flights to Mali. http://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2014/jan/16/central-african-republic-seeds-genocide-un
Great! I've got the perfect solution! They all go back to their countries and we'll bring all our people back here. Those who wish to assimilate, give up Sharia law and adhere to our norms and customs are welcome to stay. No honor killings, no stonings, beheadings, clitoral mutilations, and other such nonsense. Those who want to impose Sharia on their unwilling hosts get to return home. Actually, I don't care where they go, they just can't stay here.
Live and let live. I didn't kill them, did I? Look, there are as many levels of Libertarianism as there are any other realm of human thought and behavior. And to tell me I'm not Libertarian enough to suit your criteria, orin? Well hell, that's not very Libertarian of you, is it?
Anonymous said... "What libertarian principle is that consistent with?" It is consistent with the principle that states "GET THE FUCK OUT OF THIS REPUBLIC, IF YOU REFUSE TO LIVE BY THE RULE OF LAW ESTABLISHED BY OUR CONSTITUTION."
This dialogue sounds very familiar and similar to a book I was reading about the Jews in Nazi Germany in 1938-39. It is true, history repeats itself;it is also true that we learn nothing by it.
Let me expand a little on what cavmedic said. My family has been in America since before there was an America. One of my ancestors signed the delaration, and my family has fought for this country in every major war up to Vietnam. We have an established stake in how things are done here,paid for with blood, sweat and treasure.The 1st generation immigrants, and current crop of immigrants that are busy working to destroy everything our ancestors built are wrong. If destroying America to remake it as a socialist utopia, or a caliphate is what you have in mind, then FUCK OFF. Return to the shit hole that bred your ancestors and fucking stay there. Where you came from is ruined, due to the policies that you advocate. If you cannot see that CLEARLY then you bring no benefit to MY COUNTRY, and as such you are not welcome here. You will not be "tolerated" Get the fuck out, and take your freedom killing policies with you. In case you find my position not "libertarian" enough, let me point this out. Your rights END where they affect MY rights.
Orlin, what you are advocating is a straw man arguement. In Nazi Germany the Jewish poulation was fully assimilated. They were "good Germans " too. See WW1 for many many examples of the Jewish contribution to their war effort and society.
The muslims on the other hand, here in America are a mixed lot. Some assimilate, and some bring creeping sharia. Some think that everything in our culture and society is an affront to islam, or Allah, and WE should change to accomodate their beliefs.Sorry pal, it is not compatible with my free country, and my freedom. I will not re arrange my librarys to accomodate you. We HAVE a system that works, and works fine as developed by what were the freeist people on earth. If your beliefs can not accomodate the freedom inherent in our society, then move on. Why do people line up to move to America instead of say Jordan, or Saudi Arabia? It is because of the fundamental freedom we (used to ) enjoy. Between the communists masquerading as the democrat party, and other "guests" like the Mohommadans who wish to dismantle our society and rebuild it as the hell holes they envision, the real actual American citizens are becoming irritated. I do NOT advocate death camps, or anything of the sort. I will not however stand for allowing my country to be dismantled to suit the whims of immigrants.
Jesse, it sounds like everything you're pissed off about has more to do with the government and its policies than with Islamist immigrants.
Love it or leave it? Really? I am the one here defending the 1st Amendment. If there were one iota of evidence of a conspiracy among Islamists trying to create a national religion, I'd be with you. However, that is just silly talk. You really believe that a hundred million Jews, Catholics, and Christians would allow that or be converted to Islam? Get a grip!
Jeeze Orlin, open your eyes. Where exactly is the first amendment attack? I don't really give a rats ass how the religion is practiced, as long as the practice does not expect me to make any change in my life to accomodate it. I think re arranging a library from the long established Dewey decimal system because where that system places the Koran offends muslims is fucking absurd. If the muslims are so easily offended, why don't they take the Koran, and other fine islamic literature, and open a muslim library? Why am I expected to comply? Could it be that Islam translates to "compliance"? Why should someone in America that takes a job as a taxi driver then be able to refuse service to people carrying alcohol, or with service dogs? Both have happened here. Yet I cannot refuse service at my job for any reason. I cannot make you see Orlin, nor am I going to waste any more of someone else's bandwidth trying. I for one will not comply with the demands that I change my behavior to make my country more Muslim friendly. If Muslims cannot tolerate living in an open society. without taking offense, maybe life in America is not for you. I am not offended by the hejab, I am offended that there are some who wish it to be mandantory.
Orlin, Muslims kill for less than a library book, alcohol and a service dog, but the argument is principle over incidence. We are not going to allow them to limit our freedoms to fit their religious demands. And your willful obtuseness has just jumped the shark into trollville. You're being shut down.
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There are Muslims in this country that are completely different from these radical assholes. I work for a guy from Bosnia. He's as white as I am. I've seen him nibble on the bacon we use and he thinks these radicals need to STFU.
He doesn't make a issue of his religion and neither do the other Bosnian/Muslims at the store. He's a great guy to work for and he's help me out financially a couple of times. He has his moments, he's got a temper like mine. But if the phone rings, he knows we will come in at a moments notice. SW works there too. He's tried several times to get her to be a manager. She keeps telling him no.
One of the other drivers, also a Bosnian, makes a kick ass pizza with mushrooms and brishudo(sp), that's very thin sliced pork loin.In case you didn't know.
So it is good to know that there are some Muslims out there that aren't screaming kill the infidels. Just FYI.
Did anybody else notice that even the guy talking said "sunni muslims"? What about the shi'itty muslims? Even they make a distinction. I don't but they do.
Looks like a target rich environment to me.
That's quite alright.
This only confirms the correctness of my decision, and of course of action, that will soon be driving the communists and slaves of sharia law batshit in my location.
Soon I will have three copies of the koran in my posession and will publicly burn them, here in my AO deep behind the lines of the communist dictatorship of new york.
Without question, there will be more to follow, as the city "government" and their quislings are informed of this.
Cavmedic, a regular event for me and my friends is a koran execution. We do it every 9-11 in remembrance of those slaughtered by moderate islam.
Robert, its called tai qua. they can lie to you with a straight face and even eat pork if it helps the cause of islam.
Fuck the islamists. And remember just who exactly is letting them come here by the Thousands...Thats right, our very own Feral Government. Did any of you read about the explosion in "Little Somalia" in Minneapolis I think? It happened Jan 1 and flattened an apartment. DHS showed up, and declared a "gas leak" and had the wreckage bulldozed in 72 hours... Can't investigate that now can you? Why was that not national news? Just asking...
Without question, Jesse,(thanks for the reminder), I know who is letting them come here and what the mindset of those muslims is. That is the main basis for my near furture course of action, along with rubbing the city, state and cuomo's face in it beforehand.
I've been lurking around here for quite some time now. I find it entertaining, amusing, and sometimes thoughtful.
What I don't understand is this hate for Muslims. Bacon? Hell, Jews don't eat bacon. So what? It's their religion. Stoning adulterers? How many spouses in this country are killed each year by their better half when they are caught running around?
Read Numbers 31 in the Bible and the laws of Abraham on which many Islamic laws are based.
It seems mighty un-American to me to judge an entire people because of their religion.
Just my opinion.
orlin sellers
Orlin, the difference is a Jew doesn't care if you eat bacon, hell, he/she'd pay for the meal. Live and let live, right?
Muslims on the other hand will, at the very least, lecture and sneer at you, or if you're in the minority (see England) will attack you for being an infidel and kill you in a variety of interestingly archaic ways. Live as we live or die. Infidel.
I'd be happy to let them live their lives if they'd do the same. But that isn't the plan (again, see England and other European countries).
Listen to what the islamists tell you. They WANT a world wide Caliphate. Our position in that is Dhimmi... Read. Listen and think...The Islamists are not the only enemy of the Republic, but they are AN enemy. Jefferson faught a war against "The Barbary Pirates" Guess who they were? Google islamic rapes in Europe. Educate yourselves.
Ma'am, According to official records there were about 550 murders in England last year. Only one was done by two recent Islamic converts. The head of the Islamic communities in England called it barbaric and condemned them.
http://www.citizensreportuk.org/news/2012/01/12/british-murders-2012-victims-of-murder-homicides-and-fatal-violence-mapped/
This is the only murder I can find attributed to Islamists
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/jury-weighing-verdict-uk-soldier-murder-trial
Is it possible you are being indoctrinated with agitprop?
I certainly never hear of any murders of Christians, Jews, Hindusm etc. being killed by Islamists in this country.
I would also point out that there are laws against murder and as such we should be hearing of these prosecutions if it is happening.
If you have any information of such, I would welcome the info.
orlin sellers
How about asking the Coptic christians in Egypt?, or the ever diminishing Christian community in Iraq or Syria? How about the Armenian genocide by Turkey? How about the Ft Hood shooter?How about the guy at the army recruitment office? If you actually LOOK it is quite possible to find the evidence...
Jesse,
I would point out that there were no conflicts between Muslims and Christians in Egypt, Iraq or Syria until the US poked its nose into these countries, destroyed them and disturbed the peace.
The Major at Fort Hood has been sentenced to death by a military court in that legal proceeding.
I will not be talking to any agents of the USG.
I would also point out this current event:
Muslims in Central African Republic (CAR) are being "butchered like sheep'' by Christian militias, and the deployment of French troops has not improved their safety, according to witness accounts from refugees arriving on evacuation flights to Mali.
http://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2014/jan/16/central-african-republic-seeds-genocide-un
orlin sellers
Great! I've got the perfect solution! They all go back to their countries and we'll bring all our people back here. Those who wish to assimilate, give up Sharia law and adhere to our norms and customs are welcome to stay. No honor killings, no stonings, beheadings, clitoral mutilations, and other such nonsense. Those who want to impose Sharia on their unwilling hosts get to return home. Actually, I don't care where they go, they just can't stay here.
What libertarian principle is that consistent with?
orlin sellers
Live and let live. I didn't kill them, did I? Look, there are as many levels of Libertarianism as there are any other realm of human thought and behavior. And to tell me I'm not Libertarian enough to suit your criteria, orin? Well hell, that's not very Libertarian of you, is it?
I asked a question. Period.
orlin sellers
And I answered it.
Anonymous said...
"What libertarian principle is that consistent with?"
It is consistent with the principle that states "GET THE FUCK OUT OF THIS REPUBLIC, IF YOU REFUSE TO LIVE BY THE RULE OF LAW ESTABLISHED BY OUR CONSTITUTION."
This dialogue sounds very familiar and similar to a book I was reading about the Jews in Nazi Germany in 1938-39. It is true, history repeats itself;it is also true that we learn nothing by it.
orlin sellers
Let me expand a little on what cavmedic said. My family has been in America since before there was an America. One of my ancestors signed the delaration, and my family has fought for this country in every major war up to Vietnam. We have an established stake in how things are done here,paid for with blood, sweat and treasure.The 1st generation immigrants, and current crop of immigrants that are busy working to destroy everything our ancestors built are wrong. If destroying America to remake it as a socialist utopia, or a caliphate is what you have in mind, then FUCK OFF. Return to the shit hole that bred your ancestors and fucking stay there. Where you came from is ruined, due to the policies that you advocate. If you cannot see that CLEARLY then you bring no benefit to MY COUNTRY, and as such you are not welcome here. You will not be "tolerated" Get the fuck out, and take your freedom killing policies with you. In case you find my position not "libertarian" enough, let me point this out. Your rights END where they affect MY rights.
Orlin, what you are advocating is a straw man arguement. In Nazi Germany the Jewish poulation was fully assimilated. They were "good Germans " too. See WW1 for many many examples of the Jewish contribution to their war effort and society.
The muslims on the other hand, here in America are a mixed lot. Some assimilate, and some bring creeping sharia. Some think that everything in our culture and society is an affront to islam, or Allah, and WE should change to accomodate their beliefs.Sorry pal, it is not compatible with my free country, and my freedom. I will not re arrange my librarys to accomodate you. We HAVE a system that works, and works fine as developed by what were the freeist people on earth. If your beliefs can not accomodate the freedom inherent in our society, then move on. Why do people line up to move to America instead of say Jordan, or Saudi Arabia? It is because of the fundamental freedom we (used to ) enjoy. Between the communists masquerading as the democrat party, and other "guests" like the Mohommadans who wish to dismantle our society and rebuild it as the hell holes they envision, the real actual American citizens are becoming irritated. I do NOT advocate death camps, or anything of the sort. I will not however stand for allowing my country to be dismantled to suit the whims of immigrants.
Jesse, it sounds like everything you're pissed off about has more to do with the government and its policies than with Islamist immigrants.
Love it or leave it? Really? I am the one here defending the 1st Amendment. If there were one iota of evidence of a conspiracy among Islamists trying to create a national religion, I'd be with you. However, that is just silly talk. You really believe that a hundred million Jews, Catholics, and Christians would allow that or be converted to Islam? Get a grip!
orlin sellers
Jeeze Orlin, open your eyes. Where exactly is the first amendment attack? I don't really give a rats ass how the religion is practiced, as long as the practice does not expect me to make any change in my life to accomodate it. I think re arranging a library from the long established Dewey decimal system because where that system places the Koran offends muslims is fucking absurd. If the muslims are so easily offended, why don't they take the Koran, and other fine islamic literature, and open a muslim library? Why am I expected to comply? Could it be that Islam translates to "compliance"? Why should someone in America that takes a job as a taxi driver then be able to refuse service to people carrying alcohol, or with service dogs? Both have happened here. Yet I cannot refuse service at my job for any reason. I cannot make you see Orlin, nor am I going to waste any more of someone else's bandwidth trying. I for one will not comply with the demands that I change my behavior to make my country more Muslim friendly. If Muslims cannot tolerate living in an open society. without taking offense, maybe life in America is not for you. I am not offended by the hejab, I am offended that there are some who wish it to be mandantory.
All this over a library book, alcohol and a service dog. It appears to me that you are the one who is easily offended.
I'm assuming of course that there is more than one cab where you live.
orlin sellers
Orlin, Muslims kill for less than a library book, alcohol and a service dog, but the argument is principle over incidence. We are not going to allow them to limit our freedoms to fit their religious demands. And your willful obtuseness has just jumped the shark into trollville. You're being shut down.
Spot on re islam.
For a truly interesting take
on islam and the demise of
western civilization, watch
presentation by Dr. Bill Warner.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_Qpy0mXg8Y
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