Commentary on the President's Speech by a Patriot

By Jesse in DC, Patriot

STATEMENT BY THE PRESIDENT ON THE SHOOTINGS AT UMPQUA COMMUNITY COLLEGE IN ROSEBURG, OREGON

James S. Brady Press Briefing Room

6:22 P.M. EDT

There’s been another mass shooting in America — this time, in a community college in Oregon.

That means there are more American families — moms, dads, children — whose lives have been changed forever. That means there’s another community stunned with grief, and communities across the country forced to relieve their own anguish, and parents across the country who are scared because they know it might have been their families or their children.

So, We are all victims right? Some of us are furious. Once again, the fairytale of a "gun free zone" has turned innocent people into targets. If the government demands you be defenseless, don't you think they have an obligation to ensure you are safe?  Putting up a sign does not really cut it.

 

 

 

I’ve been to Roseburg, Oregon. There are really good people there. I want to thank all the first responders whose bravery likely saved some lives today. Federal law enforcement has been on the scene in a supporting role, and we’ve offered to stay and help as much as Roseburg needs, for as long as they need.

In the coming days, we’ll learn about the victims — young men and women who were studying and learning and working hard, their eyes set on the future, their dreams on what they could make of their lives. And America will wrap everyone who’s grieving with our prayers and our love.

But as I said just a few months ago, and I said a few months before that, and I said each time we see one of these mass shootings, our thoughts and prayers are not enough. It’s not enough. It does not capture the heartache and grief and anger that we should feel. And it does nothing to prevent this carnage from being inflicted someplace else in America — next week, or a couple of months from now.

We don’t yet know why this individual did what he did. And it’s fair to say that anybody who does this has a sickness in their minds, regardless of what they think their motivations may be. But we are not the only country on Earth that has people with mental illnesses or want to do harm to other people. We are the only advanced country on Earth that sees these kinds of mass shootings every few months.

What mass shootings every few months? The last 4 victim shooting was a muslim committing Jihad.  Most of the rest of the shootings in America are done by felons in the inner cities.  Gun free zones...We have the population of all of Europe combined....and then some. 

Earlier this year, I answered a question in an interview by saying, “The United States of America is the one advanced nation on Earth in which we do not have sufficient common-sense gun-safety laws — even in the face of repeated mass killings.” And later that day, there was a mass shooting at a movie theater in Lafayette, Louisiana. That day! Somehow this has become routine. The reporting is routine. My response here at this podium ends up being routine. The conversation in the aftermath of it. We’ve become numb to this.

Really?  We don't have sufficient laws? REALLY? Last I checked murder was pretty doggone illegal. How do they propose to make it illegaler? All sales through dealers are already heavily regulated. And frankly, I don't need the governments permission to sell my personal property...I am responsible, and would not sell a gun of any sort to anyone without doing my due diligence. But it is MY property, and none of the governments business.  And numb? Try furious.

We talked about this after Columbine and Blacksburg, after Tucson, after Newtown, after Aurora, after Charleston. It cannot be this easy for somebody who wants to inflict harm on other people to get his or her hands on a gun.

Department of pre crime? Perhaps if you are prescribed an SSRI drug you should be on a list. And THAT includes Cops, Military, and federal LEOs also. No special treatment.

And what’s become routine, of course, is the response of those who oppose any kind of common-sense gun legislation. Right now, I can imagine the press releases being cranked out: We need more guns, they’ll argue. Fewer gun safety laws.

IF, If anyone in that room was legally carrying....And what possible law could prevent it? How can words on paper stop a criminal bent on doing harm?

Does anybody really believe that? There are scores of responsible gun owners in this country –they know that’s not true. We know because of the polling that says the majority of Americans understand we should be changing these laws — including the majority of responsible, law-abiding gun owners.

Fuck your polling I know all about Cass Sunstein and his plans to "nudge" peoples opinions.  Changing what laws? How?  I hate being forced to be disarmed because I am in Maryland and DC...So now you want to make it worse?

There is a gun for roughly every man, woman, and child in America. So how can you, with a straight face, make the argument that more guns will make us safer? We know that states with the most gun laws tend to have the fewest gun deaths. So the notion that gun laws don’t work, or just will make it harder for law-abiding citizens and criminals will still get their guns is not borne out by the evidence.

Really? Chitcago has the strictest gun laws in America....What 50 people shot last weekend, and the one before? I can flat guarantee my carrying a gun on me when I choose to, I would sure as shit be safer...

We know that other countries, in response to one mass shooting, have been able to craft laws that almost eliminate mass shootings. Friends of ours, allies of ours — Great Britain, Australia, countries like ours. So we know there are ways to prevent it.

Great Britan, and Australia? Is he proposing to confiscate guns from 100 million Americans? This is not the first time he has brought up Australia. Trial balloon. GB, and Australia, have NO RIGHTS as "citizens" and no second amendment. My civil rights, just like every other civil right are not subject to the whims of popular opinion,or a fucking vote by some temporary rented politician.

And, of course, what’s also routine is that somebody, somewhere will comment and say, Obama politicized this issue. Well, this is something we should politicize. It is relevant to our common life together, to the body politic. I would ask news organizations — because I won’t put these facts forward — have news organizations tally up the number of Americans who’ve been killed through terrorist attacks over the last decade and the number of Americans who’ve been killed by gun violence, and post those side-by-side on your news reports. This won’t be information coming from me; it will be coming from you. We spend over a trillion dollars, and pass countless laws, and devote entire agencies to preventing terrorist attacks on our soil, and rightfully so. And yet, we have a Congress that explicitly blocks us from even collecting data on how we could potentially reduce gun deaths. How can that be?

SMH.... So how many terrorists have the TSA caught? Why is the DHS worrying about counterfit undies?  How is it that they don't seem to catch actual terrorists? Like the Jihadi who killed the soldiers, or the little refugee shits from Boston?

This is a political choice that we make to allow this to happen every few months in America. We collectively are answerable to those families who lose their loved ones because of our inaction. When Americans are killed in mine disasters, we work to make mines safer. When Americans are killed in floods and hurricanes, we make communities safer. When roads are unsafe, we fix them to reduce auto fatalities. We have seatbelt laws because we know it saves lives. So the notion that gun violence is somehow different, that our freedom and our Constitution prohibits any modest regulation of how we use a deadly weapon, when there are law-abiding gun owners all across the country who could hunt and protect their families and do everything they do under such regulations doesn’t make sense.

OK, this is such bullshit I almost don't know where to start.  Seatbelt laws? Really? I think a law dictating that I wear a seatbelt, at the point of their gun, is quite incompatible with living in a "free" country. I wear mine by choice, not because they make me. "Modest regulation of how we use a deadly weapon" What the fuck else can they do? I cannot carry a gun without a "good and substantial " reason decided on by someone else. I cannot discharge a gun in mont co for any reason at all. I have to go to a heavily regulated FFL to buy a gun, jump through hoops there, have my background checked....etc etc. No other right is treated to near as much regulation...

So, tonight, as those of us who are lucky enough to hug our kids a little closer are thinking about the families who aren’t so fortunate, I’d ask the American people to think about how they can get our government to change these laws, and to save lives, and to let young people grow up. And that will require a change of politics on this issue. And it will require that the American people, individually, whether you are a Democrat or a Republican or an independent, when you decide to vote for somebody, are making a determination as to whether this cause of continuing death for innocent people should be a relevant factor in your decision. If you think this is a problem, then you should expect your elected officials to reflect your views.

Change what laws???  Murder is already illegal. Carrying a gun to a "gun free zone" is already illegal. Committing a crime with a gun is already illegal.  How the fuck do they think they are gonna make it more illegal? Prohibition does not work. See Drugs, see cigarettes in NYC for christ sakes. Guns exist already. No putting that genie back in the bottle. You can make a gun, you can make black powder... Tim McVeigh used fertilizer and a truck. Making it harder (or impossible) for me to buy a gun, is like arresting me for someone else driving drunk. If you want to address the vast majority of "gun crime" focus on the inner city gangs.... 99.999% of which are already illegal guns.Hold the doctors that prescribe ssri drugs to everyone... in spite of known side effects, accountable also...

And I would particularly ask America’s gun owners — who are using those guns properly, safely, to hunt, for sport, for protecting their families — to think about whether your views are properly being represented by the organization that suggests it’s speaking for you.

I presume he is speaking about the "evil" NRA... The NRA is the least extreme gun rights group out there... And no, I do not think they should stop blocking the erosion of my RIGHT to keep and bear arms. The Democrat party has been after that right for all of my aware life. Leave me the fuck alone. I am not a criminal. 99.999% of gun owners are not criminal. Focus on the criminals, and hands off.

And each time this happens I’m going to bring this up. Each time this happens I am going to say that we can actually do something about it, but we’re going to have to change our laws. And this is not something I can do by myself. I’ve got to have a Congress and I’ve got to have state legislatures and governors who are willing to work with me on this.

The fact that they don't oughta be a clue.  Gun ownership is a basic civil right. Like freedom of religion, or the right to a trial. It is not up for a popular vote.

Frankly, doing away with "gun free" zones would be a good first step. Nationwide reciprocity of carry laws would be good too. Just like "gay marriage"....

I hope and pray that I don’t have to come out again during my tenure as President to offer my condolences to families in these circumstances. But based on my experience as President, I can’t guarantee that. And that’s terrible to say. And it can change.

May God bless the memories of those who were killed today. May He bring comfort to their families, and courage to the injured as they fight their way back. And may He give us the strength to come together and find the courage to change.

Now, Obama is already on record as saying that his greatest frustration as boy-kin