When will these silly people learn that just because you take it off of YouTube, it doesn't mean it's off the internet? This link will take you to the story and the extended video, and unless my eyes deceive me, the child is being marched through the streets barefoot. He might have flipflops on, but it doesn't appear that he has any protection on his feet. Which, depending on where and what time of year, is more abusive than the backhand.
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I'm guessing this didn't happen in Beverly Hills.
Really. Really?
"Officer, can I have your name and badge number?"
This is FUCKED UP!!! I don't care who or what you are, you don't lay your hands on a kid not your own. If my son needs to be disciplined, I WILL DO IT, not the state, not the cops, not CHS, not anyone else, besides my wife. I don't care what the situation. If I did that to my son, I would be in jail, and my son would be in state custody. If this asshole does this in public to someone else's child, imagine what he has done or will do to his own kids in private. This cop is going to be one of the cowards that takes off the uniform and hides when TSHTF. Unfortunately, that means that any good cops will be targets. Fucking asshole pig. Where are all the bleeding heart libs crying for his badge? OH I AM PISSED!!!
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Video removed. But I'm pretty sure, based on the reviews above, that if a cop did that to MY kid and it was caught on video, I would definitely have to draw on the cop (assault, I feared for the safety of my child). I may punish the living crap out of my kid later...but as a parent, that's MY prerogative.
of course, you fail to mention that he kid bit him
Dear God in Heaven, anonymous (if that's your REAL name), yes an 8-year-old boy being dragged through the streets barefoot by a cop that outweighs him by, oh say 200 pounds?, bit the cop who had a deathgrip on his wrist, probably crushing it. This is NOT how you take custody of a small child. You have a caseworker, someone who is comfortable with terrified children, deal with the child.
But when said terrified child who is, and I repeat myself, being dragged barefoot through the neighborhood while screaming for help, bites the PEACE OFFICER TO PROTECT AND SERVE, one would hope the man would be more controlled and compassionate to the child, stop dragging him, get on one knee on his level, and talk to him, comfort him, reassure him. Not backhand him and continue dragging him for blocks. Handling an 8-year-old child like a dangerous criminal gives an insight into the police mentality.
Angel - If you look between 3:00 and about 3:20 you can see the shadow of what appears to be flip-flops on his feet, so it does look like he had something on. Beats the thought of him being barefoot...
Tim
Every incident like this just keeps adding up the score. Every kid abuse, citizen abuse, roadside cavity search, dog killing, illegal search, detention,bogus speeding ticket. All of it.They act like an occupying army, and put a gun to our heads, and force us to pay for it. One day, someone that has reached their limit will play army back. In spades.It takes a certain kind of craven coward to abuse people behind the magic cop badge, and threat of death with no consequences.... I predict it will end very badly. Sad thing is there are some decent cops. But there will be no way to tell the good from the bad. Once I would have stopped to help a cop in trouble. Now, not bloody likely. When their "Long Chain of Abuses" becomes so overwhelming that they lose the support of the law abiding, they have already lost the game. They just don't know it yet. Bastards.
Saw this somewhere else, maybe a link at Drudge. Turns out the cop was serving a warrant apparently to return the kid to the custodial parent. Mother took off with the kid years before when the judge awarded custody to the father. Kid is illiterate, mother never enrolled him in school. Lives in an old school bus.
It's almost unheard of for custody to be awarded to the father right off the bat unless the mother is, ummm shall we say, a real piece of work. Illiterate, uneducated and lives in a school bus, tough call.
Read hisweserangels post above. Not that it had to be done, HOW it was done. All the difference in the world.
This kid is another disrespectful shit bag who bit the officer and deserved to have the shit slapped out of him 8,18 or 80. Once they were done slapping the shit out of him they should go slap the shit out of the parents who raised him. I am sick of these kids who have no respect for adults, authority, rules etc. They grow up to be Trevon's and the world is full of them white and black.
And all of you weak kneed, cry babies who are aghast at the situation are part of the problem. Stop codling and crying about the chillllllllllldren. We are becoming so pussified as a society it is sickening.
Again, gone galt, there is a right way and a wrong way to handle things. This was handled wrong from the get go. An 8-year-old child, terrified, dragged down the street by an unknown adult, is going to fight back. If this had been handled properly, the child would have never bitten the officer, trying to get away.
Now, just for argument's sake, put an SS uniform on the officer, make the kid a disrespectful shitbag Jew being dragged off to God only knows where, and make your argument to me again. The Jews had great respect for adults, authorities, rules, etc. Didn't serve them too well, now did it?
I can always recognize a vapid argument by the immediate invocation of a nazi comparison.
To try and draw a parallel between this incident and the Jewish behavior following a decades long decent into nazism demonstrates you know little or nothing about world history, the state of our culture and apparently children.
God help us if you are raising any.
And I know a vapid argument when the other side starts in with personal attacks.
This country has been groomed for decades to become exactly what you want, a vapid, pliable, acquiescent populace too afraid and timid to stand up for their rights and the rights of their children. Police officers have morphed into hyper-militant, Law Enforcement Officers, not adept at dealing with the least dangerous and most vulnerable citizens requiring their protection; but rather trained to treat everyone of us as suspects and criminals not deserving of personal rights.
From the details in the article I read earlier that linked the same YouTube video that has been removed, I doubt having a human services person on hand would have made much difference. It sounds like the mother had issues (actually subscriptions) and abducted the kid after a divorce court ruled to hand custody of the child to the father. She then proceeded to raise a feral child.
Could it have been handled differently? Yes, but there's no guarantee the results would have been any different. This one, in my opinion, is the mothers fault.
Tell ya what, I don't know ANYONE with children at this moment in history that tells their kids "Mr Po-liceman is your friend" anymore. A scared kid, confronted by a JBT acting like the opposition army, and they react. Well no shit Mr Sherlock. Kids are raised now a days NOT TO TRUST ANY STRANGERS!!!! Even if they have a great big JBT badge. As usual, the cop training defaults to "respect my authoritah" enforced by well, force....But Hey HWA, it is allll OK, that behavior won't be found wanting by any department guidelines...If Officer Krupp there had any training to actually treat the community that he "polices" as fellow human beings, no doubt he could have found a less confrontational approach, as well as a less frightening approach to a kid. But to the cops we aren't human are we? We are "civilians", and not part of the thin blue whine, so not worthy of being accorded any respect.What a long way this country has fallen.
hiswiserangel:
The fact that you categorize my response as a personal attack illustrates the exact point I was making and I'm not sure you even understand why!!lol
Finally, with regard to contact with law enforcement and government (to help you argue more effectively and accurately) we do not have personal rights. We have inalienable rights (which the founding fathers believed emanated from God and could not be abridged by government) some of which have been embodied in the Constitution in the Bill of Rights (interestingly not all have) These rights are now called Constitutional Rights. Constitutional Rights are the rights that are suppose to protect us from inappropriate police and government conduct. We also have civil rights and those are ordinarily considered a by product of cultural norms and vary from society to society sometimes embodied in State Statutes in our country.
Section 1983 of the U.S.Code, provide us a legal remedy against the police or any government actor when they violate our Constitutional Rights.
The use of the terms "personal rights" is a misnomer and makes your argument appear uninformed and you ignorant.
"God help us if you are raising any." Personal attack, gone galt.
"makes your argument appear uninformed and you ignorant." Personal attack, gone galt.
While there are many questions I have about you and your fitness as a human being, I refrain from attacking you.
Personal rights, in the realm of laws and especially child welfare, pertain to those unalienable rights you mention having to do with a person's being, i.e. right to personal security, personal liberty, and personal property.
The problem, Jesse in DC, is that if they would have brought in human services and the kid bit the specialist, the police most likely would have tased the tike. If mothers really care about their children they shouldn't raise them to be feral kids regardless of the decision a divorce court makes. If you think you're outraged now...just saying, and I'm done with this one, enough said.
Dave, my best friend and partner in crime is a licensed and trained social worker, she dealt with many custody situations this bad and worse, but the one thing she always said is the situation was always made worse by the adults. Both parents and cops, the kids were caught in the middle and handled like baggage. The Special Advocate and the social worker were dispatched to make sure the child was treated properly, regardless of the mistakes made by the adults in his life. Was she bitten, kicked, hit, spat on? Several times, but she understood fear and helplessness and she was able to keep her calm and keep the kids from harming themselves. That was her job.
hiswiserangel:
I was poking you with a stick in my 2nd response but I would be remiss if I did not say I do love your blog, i read it everyday, I am a libertarian and I appreciate you postings my responses.
Regards
When you said "vap" I thought you said "fap", so I did. Hehe.
Lighten up, folks. Let's not start eating our own just yet.
Dammit galt, does this mean I don't get to take you out with a flying scissor hold from the top rope? ~climbing down off turnbuckle~
HWA, I know I said I was done, but reserve the right to respectfully disagree on this one. Most likely neither of us have the whole story and are drawing conclusions before we should. Any hoots, have a great weekend! DiI out.
Dave, I agree absolutely. You should NOT raise feral kids. But the kid did not choose to be feral.Punish the adult as required, but the kid is in fact an innocent. It should be the DUTY of the enforcement class to respect the powerlessness and innocence of children.Anything else is just thuggery. It should not be tolerated by civil society.
Ok, now that I have calmed down, can I join in the adult conversation? I happen to work very closely with a group of people that treat children and adolescents for various behavioral health issues. While I understand some of it, I am by no means an expert. However, I do feel that this is a whirlpool of current issues that just happened to be filmed. However, regardless of what the underlying social problems might be (feral kids, marital disintegration, modern parenting, etc.) there was no need, reason, or lawful permissions that would have allowed that thug to abuse someone else's child. I do agree that some kids need to be disciplined, but a pig cop is not the one to do it. Since this kid does seem to have some behavioral problems, the last thing he needed was to be slapped like that. The issue goes beyond what the pig cop did. It extends into the realm of disallowable behavior that should not be tolerated by a free people. When the authorities have the ability to do as they please, then they will inevitably take that implied permission to the edge of what the people will allow and beyond. This runs right into the argument that certain "brownshirted" individuals did exactly this, and we all know how that turned out. Behavior like the kids needs to be stopped, by parents, or maybe even other adults. But allowing the police to step in and do the same implies that the authorities have the same rights as the parents, any parents, and that can not be allowed.
Oh, and I would gladly volunteer to be the recipient of the aforementioned leg scissor take down, HWA.
I personally hate the police state we live in, but I would have smacked that little bastard as well.
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